tbh, I bought this lock because I figured a beginner picker isn't going to crack it open... and it's rated for outdoor use, where it secures my canoe to a rack. That Canoe is behind a gated area where only residents of my condo can access it... and the item here is a large 14" canoe. I'm certain that, if someone was keen on taking it, they'd just cut the lock, or saw the rack apart... so I wasn't going to buy an overly expensive lock... but also I wasn't going to buy a masterlock.
I came here for the same exact reason. Just got my lock pick in the mail this week, and bout a couple of these and another model. Could feel around, but still so new I wasn't exactly sure I was doing it correctly. Definitely questioned the first disc insert point, but didn't think too much on it. Thank you for clearing the air on this!
Yes i agree there a gazilliam of asian locks that are like these i have opened them with a spiraled wire and a tensioner moving back and forth (clockwise/anticlockwise) becoming kindof a rake, rotate the spiraled wire left and right left and right ... and keep tension
It’s funny that I’m having exactly the opposite problem with the same pick. I’ve found a disc detainer with a really thick spinner and the prongs on my pick don’t even make it to the first disc
You can make one using a popsicle stick..That's what I use. If you are looking to practice with the Korean lock $16, you can use the cheap chinese disc pick $10 with some mods, and it works better than the Sparrow pick, because the ring around the chinese pick can be adjusted so the pick is resting on the lock.
Ive watched a lot of your videos and as a noob picker who only deals with pin tumbler and wafer locks, Im looking to expand my skills, one thing that isnt quite clear is: once you have turned all the discs clockwise, are you then picking/rotating the discs counter-clockwise? And whenyou say 'it feels like disc one is in a gate' does that mean that disc is picked? Assuming no false gates? Im clearly missing something,. Thanks in Advance, love your work!
Yes, once the discs are turned CW, a trimmed popsicle stick works, you pick CCW. Some discs are zero cut and are already in the "gate", which means they are at the side bar cut-out for the side bar to drop into once all the discs are picked to the "gate" location. I just started myself and have the Sparrow, which you don't need for this Korean lock, which is my first disc lock picked and a good practice lock. If you want to go cheap, buy a Chinese disc pick which are all over the web for about $10 or less. If you have a Dremel tool you will need to trim, FROM THE BOTTOM SIDE, the pick blade because it's too thick for most all disc locks. Trim to .040 of an inch, but don't go all the way to the shaft. You are good when the blade rotates freely in the middle of a disc on the padlock. You leave some material so you don't lose the tightness of blade to the shaft. It looks like it's staked on the end and that's why you don't want to trim from the end. Mines pretty tight and hasn't come loose. The other easy mod is, you have to cut the middle out about 1/16" deep on the tensioner section, so the blade goes all the way to the tensioner tip. The tensioner is the section that puts the tension on the cylinder using the number 1 disc in the lock. You can see how the Sparrow is cut with 2 forks for the tensioner, but you don't have to go that deep. The cool thing about these Chinese disc picks, is that the handle ring can be adjusted so that the pick is resting on the lock and the tensioner is only on the first disc, instead of on 2 discs like LPL explains in this video. Resting on the lock comes in VERY handy when disc 1, the tensioned disc, is NOT a zero cut, and needs picked to open the lock, which means the whole pick body has to be turned until disc 1 is positioned into the gate. You have to use the blade on a zero cut disc for tension while you are picking disc 1. This is challenging when the pick is held out like LPL does in this video. Good luck with the picking.
Most "incidents" are due to opportunity. Easier to break a window then pick a lock anyway. (i remember hearing about a US marshall/prisoner transport person who uses the issued masterlocks to secure chains). As for securing things (note above about opportunity), having a wierd or hard to cut/break lock will deter theives from your stuff and they will move onwards. i personally after buying the specialised tools, took over a month to figure out the lock shown in the vid properly and get into it... aka: normal pickers without disc detainer experience are just gonna move on However locks are a mechanical puzzle to alot of people, and "solving" or unlocking them in these sorts of people brings a certain amount of joy, and i suspect many of LPL videos are of the same mindset of "gimme more puzzles/interesting mechanism's".
Just starting out myself on the lockpicking adventure. I'm having a hard time knowing if I'm even touching a pin or just pushing them all up with the pick's shaft. Is this something you eventually learn? Are there any tips to knowing if a pin is in position rather than too far? These are the main things I've got problems with so far.
All about feel. many videos about it online. Easy thing to try out is without a tensioner try to lift the pins in a random order, so you can feel the spacing and spring tension. As for oversetting, its hard to explain with text. just keep it up and if in doubt, release tension, let the last pin fall and continue. then if you still have issues make a mental note about the order you are setting the pins and try a different order
Which came first, the "LP", or the "L"? (Did you become a lawyer to defend yourself against a burglary charge? Or did you win some case by staying up for 4 days straight learning to pick a lock to prove it "wasn't that hard"?)
If Eric is reading, try this technique. Put the disc tensioner all the way in like you were most likely doing. This makes it easier to keep the pick blade centered in the discs. You should make sure of this before picking, that is, that the pick blade can move freely in and out of the cylinder between the discs. Then pick discs 7-3, and once done, while still maintaining tension, slide the pick body out so it's on the 1 disc only, then pick the number 2 disc and done. It gets tricky if the 1 disc isn't a zero cut. Also, once the discs are initially rotated CW, you will be picking the discs CCW just in case you didn't know that. Imagine not being able to hold onto the lock in the position that LPL does while he's picking. Holding the pick out on the first disc while keeping the pick body straight so that the pick blade moves freely is going to be a challenge. They should have made the flats smaller, but all the way down the tension tube so the body of the pick can be adjusted to rest on the lock. I was thinking on making a sliding lock ring for those encounters. Right now I'm using some nylon washers for spacers and it's so much easier if not using the method I mentioned above. Good luck with the pickin'.
So lock picking lawyer, are there any locks you can recommend for us to use to protect our valuables. I just look at my lock and wonder when it be your turn to be compromised.
love the videos but ive come to expect LP to be able to unlock everything in under 5 minutes. I wish there was a lock out there that was an actual challenge for him
I have no idea how to pick locks nor is interested with picking locks but it is entertaining so i will continue watching the lock picking lawyer channel
What tool is that for turning the discs? A dimple rake maybe? Having trouble finding something wide and thin enough in my tool collection to rotate discs.
it is a dimple rake, but anything that fits in there works. i used a tension tool until i got my hand on some jigglers, and one of them fits in there perfectly
Have you received Stuff Made Here’s lock that he said he would send you in the video he made about it 3 months ago? I’ve been eagerly awaiting to see if you can pick his lock, but after 3 months I still haven’t seen the video posted yet. Hopefully you see this and are willing to reply with an update
I look at the vid length, 2:15 in this case, to determine how good or, more likely bad, the featured padlock is. Haven't watched this video yet but I'm guessing LPL will likely sneeze and it will drop open😁 Edit: Watched. Yep, pretty much. Easy pickings here!
if i left my padlock keys in my locker with the lock on the locker door accidently, would it be possible to pick the lock and keep one of your lock picking sets on hand in case? cause this actually happened to me in high school during the ninth year
Start out cheap and find what works for you, most sets have picks you will barely ever touch, so it is worthwhile finding your style and going from there. If in doubt go talk to a locksmith/toool/reddit lockpicker about tools to go for a ballpark set, and then make your own. probably most important things to have are std hooks in various thicknesses (~.012"+~.018"+~.025" [last to get used to picks without breaking them]) edit:typo
I took many hours and multiple locks to get the hang of the ”tool” ! Sometimes it’s easier not turning all the disks clockwise first but learn placement by individually turning each one with the tool . A front tension kit from Sparrows would be awesome
Why not make a lock that makes loud sounds 3 seconds after the insertion of any tool, key included? It might be a minor inconvenience to any slow key turners out there, but I doubt even LPL could pick a decent lock in under 3 seconds. Sometimes the best security is the fear of being caught.
A few weeks ago my mom took my lock picks for some reason and forgot where she put them, so now I’m stuck with 2 locks I can’t open because I don’t have the keys and relied on my picks to open them.
I was in the store yesterday , in lock section. (what are the odds!) Two ladies came up and looked at locks. They looked at the security rating by Master Lock, looked at some Brinks. They compared the locks and kept asking each other the price. They settled on a Hyper-Tough, and walked off, happy. THAT in a nutshell is why Master Lock and Brinks have a line of cheap locks. There is no hysteria and piousness in the public like there is in lock picking community. Not saying what is right or wrong, but until public changes its attitude, things will stay the same. Companies will listen to consumers.
also,,, u want you see you pick a lock with 99 ,,,, things,, inside it to pick.. with a huuuuge key. one that nobody ever saw before cause its like rediccilously expensive to make
your trying to sell your and bills tool huh,, show us someone else than you using it,, give it to mrs lockpickinglawyers and show us her first attemtpts